(highlight:: 3 Steps to finding meaningful work
Transcript:
Speaker 2
So you step two, figure out I guess how much that costs in terms of time, money, freedom, et cetera, like all of the things that it costs and step three, is that a price worth paying? Yeah.)
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(highlight:: Questions for figuring out what you value
Key takeaways:
• Step one: Figure out what you value.
• Step two: Figure out how much it costs.
• Step three: Make it happen.
• One way of figuring out what you value is thinking about the things you were doing as a kid.
• Consider the activities that genuinely brought you joy.
• Take note of the things you do outside of the day job that you would do for free.
• Pay attention to the thoughts you have in the shower.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Talking step one, figure out what you value, step two, figure out how much it costs and step three, make it happen. And so right now, I guess we're talking about step one, one way of figuring out what you value is thinking about, what are the things you were doing as a kid? What were the things that genuinely brought you joy? What are the things you do outside of the day job that you would do for free? What are the things you're thinking about in the shower? One,)
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- purpose, values, meaning, motivation,

(highlight:: The Default Answer in Life is "More" - i.e. more money, more things, more experiences
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Think this goes with another default script. The default like drive in our world is more. It's always going to be more. So unless you're explicitly defining an alternative to more, it is more. Right. And I think that is good to sort of acknowledge because, I mean, you have employees now. So like, unless you're telling them we're not trying to make as much money as possible, that is the assumption in like a business and a job. Things, right. So you could probably do interesting things.)
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(highlight:: Define Your "Enough"
Key takeaways:
• Enough is knowing that money can never satisfy deepest fears.
• Enough is having meaningful projects and time to stay energized.
• Saying no to short term gain can open up more valuable opportunities.
• Material possessions won't lead to happiness or fulfillment.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
I basically just decided like Jarvis is like, I should just define what enough is and like write out my definition.
Speaker 3
So let's see.
Speaker 2
Bringing up my Kindle highlights from the book as well.
Speaker 3
Yeah, get the branding.
Speaker 1
So enough is knowing that no amount of money in my bank account will ever satisfy my deepest fears. It's knowing that I have enough friends that would gladly open their door and share meal if I was ever in need. It's the feeling that I've been able to spend my time over an extended stretch of time working on projects that are meaningful to me, helping people with a spirit of generosity and having Enough space and time in my life to stay energized to keep doing this over the long term. Enough is seeing a clear opportunity that will increase my earnings in the short term, but knowing that saying no might open me up to things that could be even more valuable in ways that Are hard to understand. Enough is knowing that the clothes, fancy meal or latest gadget will not make me happier, but also that buying such things won't mean that I'm going to end up broke. Enough is having meaningful conversations with people that inspire me, people that I love or people that support me.
Speaker 3
Nice.
Speaker 2
How how often do)
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(highlight:: Optimizing for Energy vs. Optimizing for Money
Key takeaways:
• Following energy is important instead of just following money.
• Being overly focused on money can cause people to miss out on unknown opportunities.
• Giving oneself time to explore other things and saying no can lead to new opportunities.
• Early enthusiasm and energy are important for success.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Idea of following energy versus following money. I wonder if you can elaborate on what you mean by that.
Speaker 1
There's a lot of people that are very hyper analytical. We grew up in a world that clearly values money and it's very easy to understand like things that turn into money. I think the mistake is over indexing them on that and just not paying attention to like what the actual energy of like what you're doing is. And like, I think people can get trapped in like local minimum where they're optimizing around like something that produces money and possibly even miss out on sort of those unknown Opportunities that can emerge from just giving yourself time to explore other things or saying no to those things, right? Yeah. I imagine early on in doing YouTube videos, you sort of noticed, oh, I like this. Like in some ways, like you can't actually make it to where you are now without actually being energized by what you were doing. Yeah, absolutely. Especially at the early stage.
Speaker 3
Yeah.)
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(highlight:: Ship, Quit, and Learn: Figuring out what work energizes you through experimentation
Key takeaways:
• like I call it ship quit and learn ship.
• do it small enough that you know you can do it design it to quit.
• pay attention to whether you like doing the post or resent it.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Like, I call it ship, quit and learn. Um, ship 30 posts, 30 videos, 30 something, even do like seven, do it small enough that you know you can do it, design it to quit. But like in the process of doing it, notice, oh, do I like this? Do I want to do more? Do I find myself trying to learn more things? If you're like resenting doing the post on like the fourth day, like you need to pay attention to that. You'll never make it to a hundred.)
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(highlight:: You are not your identity
Key takeaways:
• Ram Das discusses the metaphor of a space suit as a representation of the idea that humans are more than their external roles and identities.
• The human experience is about remembering that one is not defined by their external roles and identities.
• The importance of living in the present moment and recognizing oneself as a human being.
• Applying the concept to work, it is important to question whether one's job aligns with their inner passions and desires.
• Prioritizing the inner voice that signals possibilities and wonder rather than maintaining a specific role or identity.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Like Ram Das talks about this idea of like the this spacesuit like you go on earth and you wear this spacesuit of like this person that's you and you're sort of performing all these roles And like really the human experience is remembering that like you aren't that spacesuit. You're just like this human body and like you're just living in the present moment. So what how does that apply to like work? Right. We're like people don't want to leave their jobs because like I am a consultant that makes this amount of money and like I need to be that kind of person that makes this amount of money. Right. When it's like the real question to ask is like, are you feeling this fire in your soul that is telling you there is possibility and wonder to be found in the world? And like how long are you going to not listen to that voice in service of like continuing to maintain this beingness of that role and identity?)
- Time 1:00:02
- identity, meaning, purpose,

(highlight:: Living Life like a Science Experiment: Wondering what it's like to live in a van? Rent a van for a week
Key takeaways:
• Noah Kagan expressed interest in living in a van and actually rented one for three weeks.
• The speaker was inspired by Kagan's attitude and has also considered trying van life.
• The speaker acknowledges feeling stuck in the default script of daily life.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Life. Fair. Like I was relistening to an interview I did with Noah Kagan on like back back in the day when I was doing live streams on the YouTube channel. Because we released that as an episode on the deep dive as like an in-between and one thing he said, he was like, Hey, you know, I've always been interested in the idea of living in a van. So I just rented a van and I'm going to live in it for three weeks. And I was just I was listening to that like now two years later, after the interview thinking down, that's such a good attitude. It's like I've also kind of been watching the van life videos on YouTube and thinking, huh, I wonder what it would be like to live in a van. And I've just not taken the step to be like, I could just rent a van for a week and see what happens. And I've just been caught up in the default script of, Oh, I guess I'm living in London now. I'm I guess I have a studio and an office. Therefore, I guess every day I have to go to work. And like on the weekends, I guess I go home and see my family. But I could do all that from a van just to see what it's like living in a van. Like why, why not? And I was kind of like thinking thinking to myself like that that exact thought process that you had, it's like, damn, what other things have I just thought of that, Oh, it would be cool To do X. And just not done the extra step of, all right, how do I try this out for a few days or for a week or for a couple of weeks? Or just like, how do I turn this into an experiment? And let's see what happens.
Speaker 1
I)
- Time 1:03:24
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(highlight:: 3 Steps to finding meaningful work
Transcript:
Speaker 2
So you step two, figure out I guess how much that costs in terms of time, money, freedom, et cetera, like all of the things that it costs and step three, is that a price worth paying? Yeah.)
- Time 0:15:16
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(highlight:: Questions for figuring out what you value
Key takeaways:
• Step one: Figure out what you value.
• Step two: Figure out how much it costs.
• Step three: Make it happen.
• One way of figuring out what you value is thinking about the things you were doing as a kid.
• Consider the activities that genuinely brought you joy.
• Take note of the things you do outside of the day job that you would do for free.
• Pay attention to the thoughts you have in the shower.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Talking step one, figure out what you value, step two, figure out how much it costs and step three, make it happen. And so right now, I guess we're talking about step one, one way of figuring out what you value is thinking about, what are the things you were doing as a kid? What were the things that genuinely brought you joy? What are the things you do outside of the day job that you would do for free? What are the things you're thinking about in the shower? One,)
- Time 0:20:21
- purpose, values, meaning, motivation,

(highlight:: The Default Answer in Life is "More" - i.e. more money, more things, more experiences
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Think this goes with another default script. The default like drive in our world is more. It's always going to be more. So unless you're explicitly defining an alternative to more, it is more. Right. And I think that is good to sort of acknowledge because, I mean, you have employees now. So like, unless you're telling them we're not trying to make as much money as possible, that is the assumption in like a business and a job. Things, right. So you could probably do interesting things.)
- Time 0:39:36
-

(highlight:: Define Your "Enough"
Key takeaways:
• Enough is knowing that money can never satisfy deepest fears.
• Enough is having meaningful projects and time to stay energized.
• Saying no to short term gain can open up more valuable opportunities.
• Material possessions won't lead to happiness or fulfillment.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
I basically just decided like Jarvis is like, I should just define what enough is and like write out my definition.
Speaker 3
So let's see.
Speaker 2
Bringing up my Kindle highlights from the book as well.
Speaker 3
Yeah, get the branding.
Speaker 1
So enough is knowing that no amount of money in my bank account will ever satisfy my deepest fears. It's knowing that I have enough friends that would gladly open their door and share meal if I was ever in need. It's the feeling that I've been able to spend my time over an extended stretch of time working on projects that are meaningful to me, helping people with a spirit of generosity and having Enough space and time in my life to stay energized to keep doing this over the long term. Enough is seeing a clear opportunity that will increase my earnings in the short term, but knowing that saying no might open me up to things that could be even more valuable in ways that Are hard to understand. Enough is knowing that the clothes, fancy meal or latest gadget will not make me happier, but also that buying such things won't mean that I'm going to end up broke. Enough is having meaningful conversations with people that inspire me, people that I love or people that support me.
Speaker 3
Nice.
Speaker 2
How how often do)
- Time 0:40:39
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(highlight:: Optimizing for Energy vs. Optimizing for Money
Key takeaways:
• Following energy is important instead of just following money.
• Being overly focused on money can cause people to miss out on unknown opportunities.
• Giving oneself time to explore other things and saying no can lead to new opportunities.
• Early enthusiasm and energy are important for success.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Idea of following energy versus following money. I wonder if you can elaborate on what you mean by that.
Speaker 1
There's a lot of people that are very hyper analytical. We grew up in a world that clearly values money and it's very easy to understand like things that turn into money. I think the mistake is over indexing them on that and just not paying attention to like what the actual energy of like what you're doing is. And like, I think people can get trapped in like local minimum where they're optimizing around like something that produces money and possibly even miss out on sort of those unknown Opportunities that can emerge from just giving yourself time to explore other things or saying no to those things, right? Yeah. I imagine early on in doing YouTube videos, you sort of noticed, oh, I like this. Like in some ways, like you can't actually make it to where you are now without actually being energized by what you were doing. Yeah, absolutely. Especially at the early stage.
Speaker 3
Yeah.)
- Time 0:44:38
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(highlight:: Ship, Quit, and Learn: Figuring out what work energizes you through experimentation
Key takeaways:
• like I call it ship quit and learn ship.
• do it small enough that you know you can do it design it to quit.
• pay attention to whether you like doing the post or resent it.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Like, I call it ship, quit and learn. Um, ship 30 posts, 30 videos, 30 something, even do like seven, do it small enough that you know you can do it, design it to quit. But like in the process of doing it, notice, oh, do I like this? Do I want to do more? Do I find myself trying to learn more things? If you're like resenting doing the post on like the fourth day, like you need to pay attention to that. You'll never make it to a hundred.)
- Time 0:46:34
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(highlight:: You are not your identity
Key takeaways:
• Ram Das discusses the metaphor of a space suit as a representation of the idea that humans are more than their external roles and identities.
• The human experience is about remembering that one is not defined by their external roles and identities.
• The importance of living in the present moment and recognizing oneself as a human being.
• Applying the concept to work, it is important to question whether one's job aligns with their inner passions and desires.
• Prioritizing the inner voice that signals possibilities and wonder rather than maintaining a specific role or identity.
Transcript:
Speaker 1
Like Ram Das talks about this idea of like the this spacesuit like you go on earth and you wear this spacesuit of like this person that's you and you're sort of performing all these roles And like really the human experience is remembering that like you aren't that spacesuit. You're just like this human body and like you're just living in the present moment. So what how does that apply to like work? Right. We're like people don't want to leave their jobs because like I am a consultant that makes this amount of money and like I need to be that kind of person that makes this amount of money. Right. When it's like the real question to ask is like, are you feeling this fire in your soul that is telling you there is possibility and wonder to be found in the world? And like how long are you going to not listen to that voice in service of like continuing to maintain this beingness of that role and identity?)
- Time 1:00:02
- identity, meaning, purpose,

(highlight:: Living Life like a Science Experiment: Wondering what it's like to live in a van? Rent a van for a week
Key takeaways:
• Noah Kagan expressed interest in living in a van and actually rented one for three weeks.
• The speaker was inspired by Kagan's attitude and has also considered trying van life.
• The speaker acknowledges feeling stuck in the default script of daily life.
Transcript:
Speaker 2
Life. Fair. Like I was relistening to an interview I did with Noah Kagan on like back back in the day when I was doing live streams on the YouTube channel. Because we released that as an episode on the deep dive as like an in-between and one thing he said, he was like, Hey, you know, I've always been interested in the idea of living in a van. So I just rented a van and I'm going to live in it for three weeks. And I was just I was listening to that like now two years later, after the interview thinking down, that's such a good attitude. It's like I've also kind of been watching the van life videos on YouTube and thinking, huh, I wonder what it would be like to live in a van. And I've just not taken the step to be like, I could just rent a van for a week and see what happens. And I've just been caught up in the default script of, Oh, I guess I'm living in London now. I'm I guess I have a studio and an office. Therefore, I guess every day I have to go to work. And like on the weekends, I guess I go home and see my family. But I could do all that from a van just to see what it's like living in a van. Like why, why not? And I was kind of like thinking thinking to myself like that that exact thought process that you had, it's like, damn, what other things have I just thought of that, Oh, it would be cool To do X. And just not done the extra step of, all right, how do I try this out for a few days or for a week or for a couple of weeks? Or just like, how do I turn this into an experiment? And let's see what happens.
Speaker 1
I)
- Time 1:03:24
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